So You Think That Was Good Do You?

Hello and welcome to So You Think That Was Good Do You, a podcast where we take a look
back at the films from your childhood and question the absurdity of their universes.
My name is Evan and as always I'm joined by Sam and Carl. I feel like there's usually
something in between those two sentences that I say but I can't remember it at this juncture
so how are you doing boys? Tweet at us if you're furious about us breaking
the format. I'm good mate, a little bit tired but you know, let's bring the energy up.
How about you Carl? Yeah I'm great.
I'm great, shall we get on with the movie? I don't know, you weren't so great.
Yesterday were you Carl? We're not recording a day late.
I mean at this point this is the normal podcasting day, you're right to say that the other day
but Sunday was our recording day before we eternally pushed it to Mondays.
I mean Thursday was the recording day before we pushed it to Friday then to Saturday then
to Sunday and here we are. Well this week, if we're going to get right
into it, we watched The Karate Kid from 1984 starring Ralph Macchio, William Zabka and
Pat Morita. God this film was long wasn't it boys?
By film standards it was pretty normal but by the films that we watch on this podcast
standard... Egregious.
And you know it's not like it was slow paced. I've messaged you, I was maybe 20 minutes
into the movie when I messaged and so much had happened.
The scenes are so short and things happen so quickly but it's not like any of it's
important. It's just like they're moving in, now he's
at school, now it's night time, now he's at school again and nothing's happened in
the movies. There's not been an ounce of karate.
Anyway before we get into all this bullshit let's get started with a plot sonob as usual.
I forgot to do the AI thing so I've just got one from Google again but I'm sure that's
fine. That's probably better to be honest.
It was too good last week. Yes, yep.
Daniel moves to Southern California with his mother, Lucille, but quickly finds himself
the target of a group of bullies who study karate at the Cobra Kai dojo. Fortunately
Daniel befriends Mr Miyagi, an unassuming repairman who just happens to be a martial
arts master himself. Miyagi takes Daniel under his wing, training him in a more compassionate
form of karate and preparing him to compete against the brutal Cobra Kai. Lucille? Where
did that come from? Impassionate.
Yeah, I wasn't that compassionate. I did notice the Lucille thing, I noticed it especially
because I've been watching loads of Arrested Development recently and I'm on the episode
where Buster swims in the ocean and gets attacked by a Lucille.
Yeah, nice. Because defying his mother, Lucille, it was
just burned into my brain and it was really messing with me.
For the listeners, you can tick Arrested Development off the podcast bingo. Every fucking week.
I can't wait till we mention a Mitchell and Webb look.
Oh shit. Yeah, I'm gonna have to start thinking. I haven't got one like that.
I'm only jealous because I've never seen it.
Well, as they go, that's a bit better than usual, annoyingly. Pretty, I guess, factual.
Yeah, I'm sure we'll discuss how compassionate this form of karate is, but let's save that
up.
Well, this fantastic and forgiving time-wise movie starts with Daniel and Lucille, apparently,
moving across country to Southern California. And whilst they're moving, there's two minutes
51 of opening credits, and this is the 80s, so I accepted that.
Before we get there, Evan, I mean, are we going to discuss the fact that this kid is
leaving home forever and the only people who turned out were about six or seven years old?
No friends. No one came to wave him off.
I mean, well, no, people did come to wave him off, but yeah, like you say, they're all
very young. They're all shouting, come back soon. I can't wait for you to be back, which
I feel like they don't know him. They're just opportunistic waivers. And they wave for way
too long.
Lucille probably hires them.
Down the street, turn the corner.
Yeah, she's that kind of mum. Yeah.
No one's shown up. He's going to be sad. I'm just saying, I think Daniel is brought into
question already, when you leave home and no one shows up to say goodbye. What did he
do that they have to move across the country?
Let's see how many people are at the airport.
He's a weird kid. He's the only one who actually looks like a kid in this, but he acts like
he's 40 the entire movie.
That's because he's fucking old compared to everyone else.
The actor is quite old, isn't he?
Well, he doesn't look as old as William Zamka in this, who's Johnny Lawrence. He looks
about 25.
William Zamka, who's the only teenage member of the cast. The rest are all in their early
twenties.
No way.
Yeah.
He is younger, isn't he? Yeah. Which is absolutely mad.
Hard paper round.
Anyway, Daniel gets his very sad send off and they drive across country and there's
all those opening credits, which I'm fine with. But then it stops and it looks like
they've arrived, but it's just some motel, which is kind of indifferent to everything
else, to the way everything else looks. Two minutes 51 in, the movie pretends to start
and then all of a sudden they're pushing the car back onto the road and more opening credits
happen and they're back on the road driving. Apparently they weren't there yet. And then
they arrive at the South Seas apartment complex and it looks exactly the same as the motel
they just left. And then finally the credits end again.
First opening credits with a gotcha.
Yeah. I think they put that in to make it abundantly clear that yes, this woman is moving
across country to California to get a job, but make no mistake, she is poor.
Oh yeah.
Her car's shit. She's so poor. We got to know how poor he is.
And Daniel is not bothered at all by it, is he? He doesn't bring it up every five seconds.
It's basically how long the scenes last in this. Let's get going. Anyway, they arrive
at the South Seas apartment complex and we're introduced to Freddie, who's definitely an
important character who will be in this forever. He is the nicest boy.
Oh my God, I forgot about Freddie.
That is definitely setting up the sidekick, right?
He's the nicest boy in the cinema. He can't do enough for Daniel who's moving in. He takes
his case. He shows him to his apartment. He invites him to a sick beach party later on
with all his mates.
All this after Daniel kicks a gate into him, very uncompassionately, if anything.
If Freddie says, was that karate? He's just kicking a gate open.
Yeah.
But he did say hi-yah.
That's what passes for karate in this movie is we're going to get into, I'm sure. Yeah.
So they get moved in and Freddie disappears, not forever yet, but soon forever. And one
of the first jobs, first of the many jobs that Daniel is given in this movie is to find
the maintenance man to report the leaky faucet in their new apartment. So Daniel goes off
to do that. And this is our introduction to Pat Morita's Mr. Miyagi, who's trying to
catch a fly with his chopsticks. Not bothered at all about fits in that faucet anytime soon.
After after, he says.
After after.
Yeah.
Do you remember Freddie? Here he is again. And for the last time, he joins Freddie on
the beach. Why is there so much soccer in this movie? There's more soccer than there
is karate. Am I, should I call it soccer? We don't have that many American listeners.
I'll say football from now on.
No, football.
Less every week.
Yeah. Loads of football in this movie. And it starts off here, but Daniel's not interested
in that. He's doing some pretty hard staring at a girl he's just met and not in any subtle
way. He has stood maybe two feet away from her, just staring into her soul. But as always
is the case in these movies, she is fine with it.
Let's ignore. Yeah. We have to ignore this. He, he gets to the beach at, I mean, we don't
know what the time is. It's sort of mid afternoon. He gets down to the beach and he starts looking
at her. Then we get a little camera transition. It is late night and he's not moved an inch.
He's still staring at the same girl.
Well, people always say, how did people meet before Tinder? That is how you stare at a
woman. You stare for hours. So she gives in and then you get to go talk to her.
Yes. He stares long enough for Freddie, who's still hanging about to tell him to go and
speak to his blonde girl whose name is Ali. We will learn in a second in your classic
form of flirting. He boots the football directly into the fire. They're all sat around. They'll
have a little giggle and that's Daniel's in.
My friend likes you.
And now the movie kicks off because this is where the only cool people in the movie turn
up. Johnny Lawrence and the Cobra Kai swoop onto the beach on their sick motorcycles and
just start fucking shit up. Johnny tops the already class flirting of kicking a ball into
a fire at someone by smashing up Ali's radio, insisting that he wants her back.
I got it. So I mean, a lot of weird shit happens here. First of all, Johnny is on a little
overlook over the beach and he sees this guy flirting with his ex and I guess he doesn't
like that, but he also clearly doesn't want her back because he doesn't make any effort
at any point in the film to get her back. But so he goes down to the beach. She sees
him coming and she's been having a little flirty kick about with the ball with, I almost
called him Alan. What's his name?
He looks like an Alan as Daniel.
I think that one change would have been enough to make this movie a failure, to be honest.
Alan the Karate Kid. So yeah, he walks over. Hey, I was staring at her first.
He walks over and what was her name? Ali. I just got her written down as girl. She says
her way to kind of get him out of the way is saying, yeah, watch this and hoof the ball
into the ocean. She's completely out of nowhere. They're having an old chat. She goes, yeah,
watch this, boots it away, like go fetch. And now for the first of many times in this
movie, Daniel just gets the absolute shit kicked out of him by boys who are all three
to five times bigger than him. Everybody just watches like he deserves it. For the boy who's
only saving Grace's his name. Yeah, you feel like he deserves it.
From a casting perspective, it was strange to get just a bunch of enormous men and then
just the tiniest, well, I guess he's also a man, but just the tiniest person ever to
play alongside them. Yeah, you kind of feel like it was done with
the intention of him getting bigger for when the karate tournament finally comes around,
but he's still just a scrawny little boy at the end. Not that I can say anything. I'm
not tweeting my own horn here. But yeah, there's not much advancement for him.
And for some fucking reason, Daniel has this habit of just sucker punching everyone all
the time. And we see that here. Johnny has hardly met this guy. Just sees him hitting
on his ex. Things turn into a scuffle. This guy runs at him and all he does is trip him
a couple of times and then this guy won't stop. So he does put him down. But then it
looks like he's going over to help and Daniel just clocks him in the nose.
Daniel, okay. So if you're going to be the kind of person who sucker punches people like
that, you also need to not just take punches with your face. Because he never blocks a
single hit up until the last 10 minutes of the film. He just takes them full on.
This boy has not painted a fence in his entire fucking life and it shows.
Oh, we've got a lot of that coming. Well, now, after all of that, we are back at school.
Oh, we are not. We are Daniel on floor after getting shit kicked out of him. And then best
friend Freddie and other friends all point out just how much, how pathetic Daniel is
for getting the shit kicked out of him by the toughest guy in school. And now they can
no longer be friends. Friendly Freddie is gone.
This next scene in school, they do it again. He goes to try and talk to them, obviously
on the soccer pitch. Why wouldn't it be? That's where most of his movie takes place.
And Freddie once again says, no, I don't want any of this. Thank you. And this is finally
his exit from the movie. But Ali doesn't seem deterred by what a horrible little worm. Daniel
doesn't seem right now. It does feel like Alan. Is it too confusing to switch to that?
At some point in my notes, I was just scanning through them. I've written Billy.
They all start to meld together after a point, don't they? I don't know.
Every time he gets the shit kicked out of him, his name changes. I've forgotten. Alan, Billy?
Alan's Jumanji, Billy's Relings. Yeah, they're all the same person.
Punched him into another 80s classic. Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, so Ali isn't deterred by Daniel's now mangled face. And there's a little bit more
flirting. And I don't know why I included that. Nothing really happens in this scene,
other than Freddie disappearing. It's just Freddie's exit, isn't it?
No, I think it's very important to note that Daniel tries out for the school football team,
and he gets tackled, which, you know, it's a bit aggressive, but it's a football match.
And what's his first response? Straight in for the sucker punch again. Every single time.
I know why he had to leave New York and why no one showed up to say goodbye.
This kid's being probably kicked out of every school in New York.
Yeah, the coach sends him off the pitch and he walks away screaming, it's because I'm
poor, isn't it? This school sucks, man. You can't punch anyone.
Yeah, so back to home. There's a lot of switching between school and home in this movie.
So prepare for the whiplash listeners. Mr. Miyagi is now willing to fix the faucet, and
he finds out that Daniel's been learning karate from a book, which is apparently a thing.
But what Daniel's doing is just kicking into the air.
Can we address that this is two films in a row where people have supposedly learnt karate
from just swiping at the air?
Oh yeah. I forgot about that last week.
I don't think that's how it works. I don't think you can become an expert fighter or
even a fighter of whatever, a sucker punch fighter of Daniel's level by just kind of
whipping the air.
I think Daniel agrees with you because his next venture is to the Cobra Kai dojo, where
he's going to find out if that's somewhere he can learn karate, even though his mum says
in the next scene they definitely can't afford that, but he loves to have something to complain
about doesn't he? But after he gets there, he sees that Johnny is in this class, and
all the people that have been bullying him actually belong to this dojo. So he just straight
up bounces, gets right out of there. But this is our first sneak peek of John Kreese, who
we do not get enough of in this movie. What a wasted performance.
He is not present as much as I thought he was. He really has stuck in my memory from
this movie and watching Cobra Kai, you were hoping he'd reappear because it wasn't in
season one. No, no. He left a massive impression. I haven't seen Cobra Kai, but at the end of
this film, it becomes quite apparent that he is basically the antagonist, which is like,
he's the one that's egging all the boys on to do, you know, to play dirty and, you know,
whatever. Win at all costs. Win at all costs. Do whatever it takes. Strike first, strike
hard, no mercy. He's not really, he's not really in it. No, yeah, which is a waste because
he's great. And when he gets, you get him in Cobra Kai, really awesome performance.
I think the problem is he can appear in Cobra Kai and it's fine. But were he to have more
screen time on Karate Kid, he'd just be a 38 year old man kicking the shit out of teenagers.
Well, we get to see Mr. Miyagi do this very soon. Well, I say very soon, but let's see.
He is not 38. I do have a little bit more evidence from this scene though, that Daniel
is secretly a fucking nut job. Please? Did you guys see why they moved across country?
No. Well, when we met best friend, Freddy, Daniel told Freddy that they moved across
country because for his mum's job at Rocket Computers. Oh yes. And she's working as a
fucking waitress in a restaurant. Well, that's what I was confused about. This is the next
scene. So after the dojo, they have food. He meets his mum for dinner at lunch at this
restaurant and she has to leave the table because she's being called away from work.
She works at the table. She was talking about being trained as a manager, like with computers.
Is Red Rocket a cafe? No, she works at the cafe. I don't know what happened with a computer
job that she moved across the country for, but. This is maybe something that we just
didn't understand, that it's like poor single mother. She's working two jobs. He is poor.
That's very true. They didn't really mention it much, but he is poor. Being the manager
of a up and coming California computer company sounds pretty swish, but maybe it doesn't
quite cover the bills. Well, they, yeah. So they have this conversation and his mum is
asking about whether there are any girls in his life. We just get the strangest fucking
part of this movie where he starts talking about Ali while she's at the table. She asks
if she's cute and he starts saying, you know, she's beyond cute. She's then called away
by her manager because she's slacking off on the job and goes away to work. But Daniel
just continues to talk to, I guess us, about how fucking fit Ali is. Really weird. Kids
are psycho. Is this the evidence you were going to use? No, I'm just saying the evidence
is that that job wasn't real. They moved across the country for a different reason and we
don't know what it is, but we know what it is. All the punching. Also, I mean, this is
not related to, this is not evidence of anything, but great food acting in this scene where
Daniel's sitting there with his plate of food, chatting to his mum, picks up a chip, wipes
it on each food item on his plate and then puts it back down. And that's all, it's just,
if you look at what he's doing, it's really weird. I don't know why he's doing it. I'm
going to do something amazing here and mix what you said with what Carl said, food related
and psychopath related. This boy is drinking a pint of milk with his bowl of chips in the
fucking summer heat. What's wrong with him? That's not going to end well. He's going
to be recording his podcast today, mate. Should call him the calcium kid, if anything.
Oh shit, do we end up there? There's the peak. Anyway, so I guess he sat there and talked
to himself for five hours because now he's taken a ride home in the pitch black on his
bike and the Cobra Kai gang have been following him the entire time and they just give him
a good old playful kick down a hill whilst he's on his bike. He gets pretty trashed to
be fair and his bike gets all broken and he gets home and starts shouting at his mum.
Everything's the bike's fault. It's nothing to do what he's like as a person or he's
winding people up. Quite heartbreaking scene, really, watching this poor woman put up with
her son having a fit about nothing. She's just glad he's punching a wall and not another
fucking person for once. But luckily Mr. Miyagi was eavesdropping and this is kind of where
he decides that he's going to teach this boy just something, anything that's not violent.
Well, he's failed at that, hasn't he? Because he just does teach him violence. I don't know
why I've said that. That's the whole point of this.
Passion of violence.
Anyway, it's daytime again and we're at school.
The only way they can show transition, the only way they can show time passing is to
go from daytime to nighttime.
Just in case we don't think things are moving forward. Ali asks Daniel to go to the arcade
and there's this whole weird little interaction where he sees Johnny, he's getting on the
bus but I think we're supposed to assume he's also going to the arcade. That's the arcade
bus. And Ali tells him that he finally needs to deal with this. I wasn't even sure if they're
a thing. Like they flirted a few times but now the movie's like trying to tell us there
may be a couple. I don't know, I never really get why this is forced on us in these movies.
It's hard to tell. It's hard to tell how much time has passed. It's at least like three
days and nights but it could be a lot longer.
I mean it is really weird because I didn't get the impression that Johnny was going to
the arcade. Although to be fair it does seem to be where all of the kids go every evening.
So he's walking with Ali to the arcade. He sees Johnny in his path out of the school
and he goes, actually never mind. It just cancels the plans implicitly. He walks home,
he fucks off.
Well you say he walks home because this is daytime and the next scene is him arriving
home and it's pitch black. What is this kid doing? How far away does he live? Or is he
just roaming the streets looking for someone to sucker punch?
This is a recurring pattern within their relationship though. They'll be friendly and then he'll
be a dick to her and leave.
Disappear for hours.
Just get off my case and walks off. Just every time. Just leaves everything on a fight and
then fucks off. He has to leave or he doesn't know what he'll do.
Well he'll sucker punch her. We know what he'll do.
Daniel arrives home finally and he sees that his bike has been fixed. And this is now where
Daniel and Mr. Miyagi are becoming fast friends. They cut some bonsais together. Some more
time passes. There's not been any more night times but it's now Halloween so we're supposed
to assume this is some time in the future. And they're talking about whether or not...
I love how this is introduced as well because Mr. Miyagi says, I passed by the school earlier.
It looks busy. Totally normal thing to say. And then Daniel explains, how does that dance
on...
What does that mean?
Yeah. Why are you passing by the school? We know you don't live anywhere near there.
It looks busy. As in like, too busy for what? What were you trying to do?
What's the scale of busyness for a school? There is a Halloween dance and Daniel isn't
sure if he wants to go unless he could go as the invisible man. And this sparks an idea
in Mr. Miyagi's head of finding something inconspicuous for Daniel to go in. I keep
going to call him Johnny. That's the other one.
It's Alan and Billy.
It's Billy, Alan, Johnny. It's everything. It's anything.
And they decide on an entire shower unit. The most conspicuous thing you could be at
a school dance. There's only one instance in a following scene where he is inconspicuous
and it's very good.
He's so conspicuous that the second he walks in, despite being completely covered by the
curtain, Ali turns around and goes, oh look, there's Daniel. Definitely him.
There is someone in, what is this place? The South Seas apartment complex and Mr. Miyagi,
the handyman has got into their apartment, stripped out the entire shower. I'll bring
it back later.
After, after.
Some poor old confused woman standing naked in a shower, in a bathtub.
She goes to the toilet and we find out that Johnny is in one of the cubicles. We find
out it's because his mate comes in to talk to him. He's rolling a spliff in the cubicle
as he do and as the bad boys do. And his mate doesn't notice that, I've forgotten his
name, Daniel is stood there because he's a shower unit in the toilet. It must be the
only reason.
I disagree. I think he did notice, but because they're far more sane than Daniel, they're
not randomly swinging punches at the first second they see him. They're just like, well,
he's here, we're here. Cool. He's a shower.
I mean, look, he wanted to be conspicuous. He's dressed as a shower. Where are you going
to be the most inconspicuous?
It's a shower looking at itself in the mirror, obviously.
He immediately ruins this because he plugs in a, well, the pipe's already plugged in,
who knows why, but he drapes it over the cubicle. If this didn't happen, we'd have to have
a bloody night time, Sam. He puts it over the top of the cubicle and turns it on and
gets Johnny and all his drugs very wet. And as we know, all druggies are absolutely fine
when you ruin their drugs. Just joking. They chase him down through an allotment and kick
the shit out of him again. What was this kid expecting?
He must have known this would happen. What is he doing?
Yeah, he had to have known.
So he's the slowest kid in karate town. It's painful watching this boy move.
Oh my God. They caught him by the end of the road.
He's carrying an entire fucking shower, to be fair. This was not the time to assault
someone.
No. Let's take the shower off first.
It's not a logical thought process. He can't help himself.
He was wearing sports kit. Just take the shower off and run.
Yeah, but he's in this allotment little field next to his apartment complex. And again,
same as on the beach, same as in basically every fight, he just takes every single punch
kick hit without even trying. This man has the constitution of a peach. He just one little
tap to the arm and he's down clutching it himself, writhing in agony.
Arms directly at his sides.
His limp arms at his side as he gets absolutely lamped in the face.
Yeah, and this beating goes on for a while, but luckily Mr. Miyagi spider-mans over the
fence and just delivers a beating on these boys. There's a scene after this, unless you
want to speak about that beating in particularly.
What do you say about it? Old man beats up teenagers and we're all cool with it. What
I like is apparently, unsurprisingly, it wasn't Pat Morita in that scene. He had a stunt double
and he was apparently hitting the teenagers too hard. So he actually was just an old man
beating up teenagers. In the end, they had to bring in different actors to film the scene
to get it right. Cause they were all complaining that he was just beating them up.
I say teenagers, everyone in this movie is 30 years old. Apart from Johnny who looks
30 years old.
Also, I mean, so yeah, this is tracking into the next scene, but Miyagi, he could have
done any number of things then. He could have said something, could have called someone,
could have said literally anything. He jumped in and kicked the shit out of them as his
first, you know, first resort. And then in the next scene, he quite sternly tells Daniel
that fighting is always the last resort.
He also in this scene claims that his family invented karate. So I don't think he's all
worth it. We do get my favourite line here though, which is now use your head for something
other than a target, which is such a sick burn on a kid who has just had his life threatened.
He's been beaten up three times in as many days.
And nights. Don't forget the nights.
Oh yeah. Can't forget the night.
Did you notice that in this scene, even though they've spent a lot of time together, Daniel
can't get this guy's name right. He keeps calling him as you're named in this chat,
Sam, Mr. Miyagi, like five times in a row.
Well, yeah, I set my name as this because it really confused me that everyone was calling
him. If you see that name written down, first of all, why would Daniel be saying his name
phonetically when he's speaking to the guy and has met him and spoken to him? That doesn't
make any sense.
They are friends.
Why does everyone mispronounce his name? That's how it, that's how it reads.
I can't articulate why this annoys me so much.
So Daniel convinces Mr. Miyagi, I'm going to hate hearing that so when I come into editing.
I hate when I say so all that much. And that was a big one.
So Mr. Miyagi agrees to go to the Korokai Dojo with Daniel to ask, it's essentially
asking the other guy's dad to stop beating up your kid. But neither of the dads, they're
both
asking the other guy's dad to stop beating up your kid.
That would be a strange movie.
Can you ask your dad to stop beating up my son?
I mean, suppose it's all of his dad but the other way around because Mr. Miyagi just beat
the shit out of all of his students.
You know what I meant and now I have to leave that in. God damn it.
And Chris does not agree to those terms. The only thing they can settle on is that both
Johnny and Daniel meet at the tournament in two months time and it's settled there. But
they do agree that Johnny won't kick the shit out of this boy for those two months.
I got two notes down for this dojo scene. And neither of them are very good so you might
just cut this. But first one, the karate teacher dresses like Nightman. I'm always sunny.
Get it on the bingo.
Oh yeah, that's on the bingo. He's got like the arms cut off and the black. I forget the
name of the thing. And the other thing is that every child in the dojo looks like Mark
Hamill.
Yeah, you're not wrong.
I appreciate the commitment of one guy who's still karate training with a broken arm. Just
there with a cast on.
Or with strap. Don't say that. Not with strap on.
So after they agree to these terms, Mr. Maggie takes Daniel to his home to begin his karate
training. You'd think at some point his mother would start asking where Daniel is, but she
is not concerned with all the jobs she's cuggling.
Just glad he's not out punching people to be honest.
True.
They haven't had to move city in months. It's been great.
This is the famous wax on wax off scene. This is the beginning of the chores for Daniel
and there's a lot of them coming up and a lot of days and nights so bear with us now.
Oh no, now we're at night time. Yeah, god damn it. Daniel and his mum. Go to pick up
Ali because they've agreed to go on a date. And this is one of the showcases of just how
terribly horribly poor they are because Ali's parents are all rich and they have a lovely
big house and Lucille's car won't work just like at the beginning of the movie where they
did that bloody opening credits fake out and they have to push it down the street and she
says how this happens all the time. Why she thinks anybody's enjoying this. It's uncomfortable
for me. It's uncomfortable for the parents. Daniel's having an awful time. I'd sure
he'd be preferred to be have the shit kicked out of him.
Yeah. So yeah, I mean, they drive up to the house and neither of them comment on the fact
that it's, I guess it's obvious. Yeah, these people are rich. But when Daniel walks up
to the door, he sees Ali's parents rolling up. I just noticed that she opens the door
and he just stands there and for a full like 10 seconds just stares at her tits the whole
time.
Did you say she's over 20, Carl?
I'm a bit worried where this goes if I say yes. Yes, she was. Yes.
Oh, excellent. Yeah. Her tits were big though. Coming out of that door would be the catcher's
eye. Also, did you notice that she came out of the door, but her parents came up the side
of the house towards Daniel. They flanked him.
Yeah, they- I thought you were about to say her tits came out the first.
Oh damn, I want to cut that.
No person has ever been more awkward meeting parents. Just, yeah, like he has to do a little
bit of vandalism on the side as he talks to them, just kicking the wall until it breaks.
Surprise, he's not saying hi-yah at the same time.
So they go to the arcade and they hang out a bit there, nothing really important happens.
Excuse me, specifically, they go to Golf and Stuff, which is a great name. It's got golf
and stuff.
But I think the rule of this relationship is just that they always have to start with
an apology, which means that he always has to be a dick at the end. And so a thing has
to happen to make him be a dick.
Yes, this was really weird.
People drive past to take the piss out of his poor, poor mum because she's picking them
up and now he is just a dick to Ali because she has money and he doesn't and her friends
have money and he doesn't.
Yeah, he is poor.
He is poor.
He is a dick.
But now he has a reason to talk to her again when he apologises later, I'm sure.
Yes.
Maybe this is his tactic.
And now we've got something to end on for it to become daytime again because we're back
at Mr Miyagi's place and Daniel is performing yet more circle based household chores.
Chores?
Chores.
This time he's sanding down the deck with something.
I missed the description of what those items were, but I guess sanders.
I'm not saying that Mr Miyagi's training techniques would work in the real world, but I kind of
appreciate the fact that for an 80s movie, we don't just get a montage of him karateing.
True but, but wouldn't have that been nice.
We do.
Yeah, well they-
We do.
It just doesn't come now.
The montage comes at the end for the fighting, which is the bit we wanted to see.
But hey ho, we get a lot more chores.
There's a bit of, I can't remember if the fence painting is now, it might be, but eventually
there's a scene where Daniel and Mr Miyagi are both trying to catch a fly with chopsticks
and Daniel gets to it first.
I know this is where the painting comes in because it's a punishment for Daniel doing
that.
Yes, that's right.
Yeah.
This guy has so much fence by the way, that was an insane amount.
He's got a nice place.
Paint the fence just always brings back a very specific memory for me.
Of all Mitchell and Mech.
I've said, no, but I've said many times I went to a very shit school and just one time
in school I was just stood in the hallway waiting for class to start and some girl walked
past and because I went to that sort of school tried to just punch me in the stomach and
I guess I painted the fence and all I did was push her hand down and got punched right
in the bollocks.
Every time I see paint the fence I just think, probably not the best thing to do.
Oh, that's a great story.
That's excellent.
Never paint the fence again.
So Daniel paints all the fence front and back and then he comes back the next morning again,
another morning and he has to paint the inside of the house and at this point, frightfully,
he's getting a bit annoyed with Mr Miyagi.
I just want to point out that the face painting, the fence painting thing was because he caught
the fly with the chopsticks because Mr Miyagi said, if you can catch a fly with chopsticks,
you can accomplish anything.
No you can't.
You can mainly just do that.
You can maybe catch a bee.
Surely bee comes before fly.
You work your way down to fly.
Maybe you can get a mosquito now.
Anyway, Daniel has a little bit of a fit about when he's got concern that none of the things
he's doing are really karate and quite rightfully because he's just been doing chores for Mr
Miyagi but here he demonstrates that everything he's been learning, even though you've just
proven this wrong call, is in some way related to karate.
They're all blocks of some kind.
The rules of this movie are if you touch the hand that's trying to strike you, it instantly
stops.
Yeah.
Whereas, yeah, I proved that that's not what happens, it's just the momentum has shifted
in a different direction.
Yeah.
How old were you in this story?
I'd never seen the karate kid, luckily, so it wasn't like I was one of those weird kids
who was just acting out movies.
So this was just natural skill.
This was just a real, oh, this was just, yeah, a born...
My family actually invented karate, but yeah, I must have been 14, 13, 14.
Sorry to make you relive that call, thanks for doing it for the pod.
Mr Miyagi now takes a shirtless Daniel to the beach for a bit more karate where he stands
in the waves and I don't know, there's a very tenuous connection to karate for a long
time.
This is the most hilarious scene I've ever fucking seen.
I was pissing myself, he looks like he's walking around like a man who has just emerged from
a 10 year coma, just in the middle of the sea.
No idea where he is and then just getting hit by waves every now and again as he tries
to kick them.
He's lifting his leg up and kind of bracing himself in the most kind of pathetic way possible.
Every time, I want to bear in mind, Mr Miyagi didn't say go in the sea, they went to the
beach and he said, we're going to learn balance and fucking Billy just ran off into the sea.
There was no go sucker punch the waves, he just can't help himself, but every time he
emerges from getting hit by a wave and has no idea where he is, it's fucking hilarious
to me.
Looking around, do you remember the episode of The Simpsons where Mr Burns is all doped
up and they think he's an alien?
Yes.
That's all he reminds me of.
The only other thing of note that happens in this scene is that Mr Miyagi is performing
the crane kick over on one of the, I don't know, podium?
A bollard?
A bollard?
Yeah.
There's a name for them, I can't remember what they are.
And that'll be important again later.
If you've seen this movie, you know the crane kick is what everybody watches it for and
it is not as good as what you remember.
I watch it for the chores.
Well, that's most of it, Cole.
This is followed by the most uncomfortable scene in the movie, which is those two white
guys waiting at the car for Mr Miyagi to come back over and then just racially abuse him.
Yeah.
Horrid.
Who was that for?
Nothing to say on this.
This is the bit in the film where I went, okay, so every single character in this, except
for Daniel's mum, is an antagonistic prick.
There's no one who isn't a dickhead.
They have moved to just the meanest place in the country.
No one knows how to be nice to people.
I mean, to be fair, at one point when Daniel asked Ellie why she likes him, she just said
I thought you were different like me.
Maybe that just meant I know how to be nice to people in some way.
I too know compassionate karate.
Well, speaking about Ellie, that moves us into our next scene where...
Is it time for an apology?
It's coming.
Well, the reason for an apology is coming.
Daniel?
Yes, Daniel has agreed to meet Ellie at the country club because they're going to go to
the water park, which was mentioned the last time.
There must have been an apology between then and now, but I've probably cut it out for
not being important.
So imagine he's apologized.
They were probably playing football.
Yeah.
Well, of course.
And it was a day and a night.
And now they've arranged to meet at the country club where her parents have taken her for
a dance.
That was a thing in the 1980s, I suppose.
Yeah.
You got your dirty dance and all that.
It's like a little ball going on.
Yeah.
A little rich person ball.
Everyone at this school is rich as fuck.
It seems.
Apart from Daniel.
Apart from Daniel.
Yeah.
And all they do is refer to him as like fungus and no one wants to be his friend.
At no point does he ever make a friend in that school.
Someone calls him a worm and someone else calls him fungus.
As far as I can tell, the only thing is that he's poor.
Yeah.
So there's this whole dance going on at the country club and this whole setup is just
so Daniel can enter through the kitchen like the horrible little sewer boy he is and see
that Johnny is dancing with Ali, but he doesn't catch quite enough because he bounces into
a waiter and causes a ruckus.
Everybody sees the poor boy covered in food on the floor and he runs away.
Whoa.
That's what you think happens.
What actually happens is he sucker punched that waiter and then the waiter fell on him
and that's how he got covered in food.
He couldn't help himself.
I just want to point out, the camera cuts and he's on the floor covered in a crazy
amount of spaghetti.
They didn't all see him, just see him there.
Every single person in that room burst out laughing.
Absolutely pissing themselves.
A room full of adults.
A glorious laughter at a young child hurting themselves.
But he's poor Sam.
Look at the poor boy.
These guys are rich.
He is poor.
Imagine you're rich and you're in a room with all your rich friends and then a poor
boy knocks spaghetti all over himself.
That's the funniest shit I've ever heard.
Yeah.
So he runs off.
I can't remember what Johnny did.
Maybe he grabbed a bum or tried to kiss her or something, but she kissed him a good bum.
Oh yeah, he forced himself on her.
Oh, okay.
Sexual assault.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Why didn't I close my eyes?
Like I was trying to imagine what was next in the movie when I've specifically written
it down for myself.
Too easy.
So Mr. Yamamoto.
Mr. Yamamoto.
Misty.
I can't get his name right.
It's just said how it's written, Evan.
Daniel joins Mr. Miyagi back at his house and another just insane scene.
He is cranked out.
He has been drinking whiskey all day staring at a picture of his, as we're about to learn,
dead wife.
He's wearing his full military uniform.
Oh yeah.
Daniel comes in.
He proceeds to give Daniel a glass of whiskey, shows him pictures of his sexy wife, put on
a one man show depicting the time that he was told that his wife and unborn child died
on the same day.
And then he passes out.
Pretty fucking good combo that.
Number one, I'm glad I misremembered this scene because I thought that Mr. Miyagi was
in the Japanese military, which is a very different situation on a different side and
up to some dodgy shit.
But I quite liked the scene because I mean, apart from this, he is just kind of a caricature
at times in the way he talks and acts and he's just the quiet Japanese guy who happens
to know karate.
But I don't know, it adds a little more depth to him.
I enjoyed the payoff of this we get a little bit later on, but the role play he did I found
very uncomfortable.
Oscar nominated this role.
Wow.
So you're wrong.
I thought it was a perfectly good scene.
This leads in to what I wanted to say is that, so for the first couple of injuries that he
gets towards the start of the film, he insists to his mum that he's falling off his bike
and getting a black eye and you know, whatever other cuts and bruises he's getting.
At this point, what does she think is happening?
Because her son's never home, either day or night.
Does she know that he's spending, does she know that he's splitting his time between
the 15 year old girl and the, I don't know, 65 year old Japanese man who works as a maintenance
guy in their building?
Somehow this building employs a full time maintenance man who mainly just sits in a
room.
You think you'd just call him out when needed, but no, he's just employed full time to sit
in clipped trees and steal showers.
I don't think she's bothered.
She's certainly not written in any sort of capacity where she needs to be bothered.
She's in the film four or five times and each time it's just to point at Daniel and say,
what's going on with your face?
So now Mr. Miyagi finally teaches, I just said his name, Daniel, how to punch.
I almost called him Craig, wherever that's from.
This thing really great about this scene, but something that annoyed me was that to
motivate Daniel, he says, what's the matter of you?
What's the matter?
You kind of, my God, boy, sorry.
My brain is...
I know what you're going to say.
What's the matter?
Are you some kind of girl or something?
Thank you.
Oh yeah.
Thank you for talking to me because karate kid number four, the next karate kid is my
favorite one.
And the one I watched the most as a kid, probably because it's the only one I had on DVD, but
Hilary Svangton...
Karate Kid 2 is the next Karate Kid.
That's going to cause some confusion, Carl.
Please explain it.
Karate Kid 4 is called the next Karate Kid.
Yes.
But Karate Kid 2 is the next one after this one.
I'm sorry.
Excellent.
I can weigh in because I didn't know that that was the name of the film and I was confused
as to why they would have gone from one to four.
I genuinely considered doing a bit when we started and pretending I watched the Jaden
Smith one, but I was just going to be asked.
Oh, I vaguely considered it and then I was like, yeah, no.
I also considered it and also went, no thank you, but I don't even want to watch this one.
I don't even want to pretend that I've watched a film with Jaden Smith in it.
So after he's torn out a punch, an uncountable amount of days and nights pass because now
it's Daniel's birthday and he is...
Although Jaden Smith would be really good at sucker punching.
My mum's name.
That was a really late joke, but I had to say it.
I saw you winding up for it.
It'll be less late once Evan cuts out the big gap, it's fine.
An uncountable number of days and nights pass and Daniel is now spending his birthday with
Mr. Miyagi and I really wanted to make fun of this scene because it's so weird, but when
he gave...
You spent it with Freddy, right?
His friend.
When he gives him the key with his wife's embroidery on, which we saw from that night
where he role played her death, I was genuinely touched by that.
He did not role play her death.
He did.
He did a one man show of her dying.
Please can you tell your dad to stop beating my wife?
And this is like we've alluded to where he just gives this kid one of his really nice
cars, which is no way that Daniel is ensured to drive.
In America, as far as I can tell from this movie, you just turn 18 and then a driving
license arrives in the post and then you're allowed to drive now.
Look, I'm 18 and I've got a driving license now.
I mean, to be fair, one of the first things he does is give the keys over to Ali and say,
here you go, drive this.
And she has no idea how to drive.
I love that scene because she's shocked that someone would want her to drive and his response
is, well, it's the 80s now.
It's the 80s, man.
And so now I'm starting to think that in this psycho town full of awful people, women aren't
allowed to drive.
Yeah, like he thinks he's being progressive.
The only other woman you ever see drive is his mum and they all insult the fuck out of
her for a nice car, Miss LaRusso.
Do you not have a man to drive you around?
Whilst we're on these topics, because he leaves Mr. Miyagi's place because he says his mum
has a, and this is strange, a surprise birthday cake planned for him, not a party, a surprise
birthday cake.
Just a cake.
Can't afford any more than that, mate.
He leaves with Mr. Miyagi's car and goes to meet Ali instead, but his mum is sat at home
with a surprise birthday cake that he knows about and who else is going to be at the surprise?
This kid's got no mates.
Just waiting for him to come home, but it's going to be several days and nights.
Let's not forget that when he meets up with Ali, with his new car, he gets everything
out of the way in one and first insults her and then apologizes to her because that is
the rule of this relationship.
I do want to point out though, okay, so they have their first kiss.
I think it's their first kiss at this point.
And he just goes straight in with the tongue.
It's kind of cringing a little bit.
I missed this.
I don't remember this at all.
Oh, I watched it because I know that.
Why does every movie we watch forces us to watch kids kiss?
I know the actors are older, but they're playing kids.
What's weirder about 80s and 90s movies is they force us to watch kids kiss with tongues
involved.
Oh yeah.
It's right down her throat instantly and I'm just there like, oh, come on, you're like
12.
But he's not.
He's a 23 year old man.
Well now everyone's made up and everybody and by that I mean Mr. Miyagi, Ali and Daniel.
I was going to call him Tennant.
That's not even a first name.
Daniel arrived at the tournament.
It's not even a name.
Oh god.
Mr. Miyagi takes Daniel and Ali to a tournament and they sign up with a referee and Mr. Miyagi
sneakily steals a black belt because nobody's read the rules and they didn't understand
that you have to be a black belt to enter.
And the next scene is also where Ali is explaining the rules of this tournament to both of them.
You think they'd taken any point in that two months they've had training to briefly look
over the rules, but they don't.
From what I understand, one of the rules, which is mentioned at some point is no kicks
to the head.
So presumably everyone will adhere to that.
So what she says is anything above the waist, head, shoulders, torso and arms, they're
points.
And then I think the referee later on in one of the montage matches says, don't kick anyone
in the head.
I'm in.
That might be it.
How, how in depth are we going to get into all these many fights?
All tournament montage in one go.
We don't have to go piece by piece because a lot of people get kicked in the head in
this and it's fine.
Yeah.
It's the main attack of everyone.
As far as I can tell, face kicks are allowed, but kicks to the leg aren't allowed because
that's too violent.
Points don't count on legs.
He got in trouble for punching him in the knee.
Why can I boot you in the face?
But if I kick you in the leg, I'm being overly aggressive.
I suppose it's no, no, no, you don't get a point for kicking in the leg.
Probably it gets too easy.
He told off Johnny for punching him in the knee cap because I don't know if it was a
joint or something.
You're mistaking us for karate masters.
In the semi-final before his knee, but he gets his knee hurts.
He gets kicked in the leg and that's not allowed.
He gets disqualified for a leg kick.
Yeah, but he tries to GBH him.
Well, he just kicks him in the leg.
It's fine.
Earlier on, someone gets punched in the back of the head and that's okay, but you can't
kick anyone in the legs.
Concussion's fine.
You can kick a leg if you're sweeping the leg, but you can't kick a leg if you're kicking
a leg.
Plus, let's, let's not forget that the, um, God, what's his name?
Daniel.
He's swiping all of these punches into his bollocks anyway.
Oh, and so yeah, punches to the back of the head are fine.
Punches to the face are fine, but Johnny, when it's two points each, punches Daniel
in the face and that's not fine.
Yes.
Yeah.
This is the big point of contention for this movie is that Johnny fucking won this tournament.
Why, why?
The next thing Daniel does is kick Johnny in the face.
That's a point.
And that's fine.
Yeah.
This tournament drives me.
I was just watching it today going, so what the fuck are the rules?
Did they just start every single fight by going new rules, boys?
Pickling's fine on this one, but any nipple twists and you're out.
Not a lot happens during this, considering this is what we've been building to.
It's a lot of Daniel running out of the ring for a little bit and then intermittent scenes
of seeing a lot of other guys who actually know how to do karate when Daniel clearly
fucking does not.
All the Cobra Kai guys look like they're on cocaine, just fully fucking ramped up the
entire time.
Yeah.
And this tournament looks like they know how to do martial arts, which just really makes
what our protagonist is doing look ridiculously, but they literally having to run onto his
kicks in order for him to win.
Yes.
Just kind of lifts a leg and they run into it.
It's the oddest thing I've ever seen.
That's three points.
None of his hits have any weight to them.
It's they are little love taps.
Yeah.
I don't think any of us are going to pretend we could do better, but you know, it's still,
it takes you out of it a little.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
So somehow Daniel makes his way through all those fights and makes it into the semifinals.
Johnny Lawrence absolutely crushes the guy.
Watching him fight is actually sick.
Watching those two just jump through the air at each other and full on kick each other
is really cool.
The problem is that when you see, when you see those fights, it's proof that the choreography
isn't the issue.
It's just that I don't know how to say, is it Ralph Macchio, Macchio?
I think so.
Macchio.
Has just not bothered to learn karate in any way, shape or form.
But even that is enough to worry John Crease because he tells the semifinals for round
two competitor, we don't get this kid's name.
He's just Cobra Kai member number three to take Daniel out of the competition.
What does he say?
Put him out of commission.
Mark Hamill number three.
Yes.
I also want to point out before that, before the fight, before, yeah, he says take him
out of commission.
Um, but before he's even said that, before the ideas entered his head, uh, Miyagi's talking
to Daniel and he says, oh yeah, he says something like, how do you think I'm going to win?
He's like, you'll be lucky to survive.
Doesn't elaborate.
Daniel asked him multiple times, what do you mean?
Why did you say that?
But five minutes later, after Daniel's leg is twisted, Mr. Miyagi says, yeah, I thought
you could have won that actually.
Not what you just said.
You should have swiped that kick upwards into the cock and I wasn't going to share that
story.
I'm glad you did.
So that student gets disqualified for breaking Daniel's leg and Daniel's got 15 minutes
to try and recuperate or he's disqualified as well.
Mr. Miyagi does his magic hand thing from earlier on in the movie, which we haven't
mentioned, but he just warms up his hands and does physiotherapy.
I would imagine.
Uh, and we get our final fight between, I say it's a fight.
Johnny Lawrence does a load of sick moves around Daniel who is just turning really for
five minutes and then lands on some of Daniel's punches by accident.
I do, I do find it quite funny that, so Mr. Miyagi's kind of, uh, warms up his hands,
does a little quick massage thing that is presented to us as some kind of miracle cure.
But then when Daniel walks out, his legs obviously still fucked.
You can't, you can't stand on it though.
He's still limping like he can't stand on his leg, so he's done nothing.
He's given him belief.
But yeah, you're right.
It's very, very one-sided.
Yeah.
Uh, but it ends with the famous crane kick that, it was never taught to Daniel, but he
saw Mr. Miyagi do on the beach and obviously...
If you can catch a fly, you can do anything.
Exactly.
That is true.
But before the kick, was he, was he stood on his good leg and then kicked, and then
kicked from his bad leg?
So he landed on his bad leg.
Well, you, yeah, you land on the back, you kick with the same leg you were standing on.
Yeah.
So he's on his good leg, kicks with his good leg, lands on his bad leg and presumably collapses.
You hope that kick lands and then falls to the floor.
Crumple into a heap.
And I wish I could say what happens after this, but the movie just ends.
It just ends.
It's so abrupt.
We get, we get happy, smiling, nodding Mr. Miyagi.
That's where we get the slow motion, not for the kick that was the final bit of this movie,
but instead for Mr. Miyagi.
And then just cut to credits.
Not even a fade to black.
They just pop up on the screen and that's the end of the movie.
Crazy.
That is it.
That is the end of the movie.
That is, it feels abrupt even now discussing it.
I don't know where to go from here.
Carl, do you have any trivia for us?
I do.
I mean, most of the trivia was pretty shit, but I did enjoy that.
Yeah, I imagine.
Another person considered for the role of Daniel LaRusso was Charlie Sheen, but he decided
against it in order to appear in Risalee 2 Revenge.
And there was a slight delay in the completion of that movie, and it finally released in
2020.
What?
Oh my God.
I will watch that.
Hold on.
What's it called again?
Risalee 2.
Risalee 2.
So there's a movie that came out in 2020, which stars 1980s Charlie Sheen.
Yeah.
Good God.
It's good trivia.
Thank you for that Carl.
Well, now you know what's coming, son.
It is time for bad reviews.
If you've got any, you don't have to have any.
I got a few.
Obviously it won't surprise you to hear that most of the reviews for this were very positive.
I had to dig a bit to get some negative ones.
Not that they have to be negative, but first of all, I quite like this.
This is four stars left by Thicc Thanos said, Johnny Lawrence was the Logan Paul of the
1980s, which is so on the nose.
It's so perfect.
Yes, that's spot on.
It put into words something that I felt, but I didn't know how to put it together.
That is so accurate.
Just perfect.
Which also reminds me something we didn't mention in the film.
This is not the time to mention it, but fuck it.
As Daniel's like lifting up his trophy right at the end, three seconds before the film
cuts to black, Johnny runs up to him and kind of goes, Oh, good fight, bro.
That was good.
Thanks.
Sorry.
That's the preterite complete redemption.
I didn't notice that.
That's the one reason I'm glad we got Cobra Kai is Johnny Lawrence in Cobra Kai.
So awesome.
Is he redeemed in it?
Yeah.
Is he played by Logan Paul?
He's a maddie character.
Like it's not, certainly in the early seasons, it's not that simple, but watch it mate.
All the bits with the adults, I actually know that's not true.
All the bits with Johnny Lawrence and John Kreese are really good.
Everything with the kids and Ralph Macchio is quite cringey to watch.
I would recommend skipping all the karate.
That probably means you'll be through a series in about half an hour, but the answer to everyone's
problems in that TV show is to have a fight.
Just constantly.
Well, it's the Mr. Miyagi way of teaching karate.
Daniel has not taught compassion in that valley.
Everyone just resorts to beating the fuck out of each other for every little infraction.
It's insane.
Sucker punch him.
Compassionate karate, AKA kick him in the face.
Or, you know, kick him over a banister and break his spine.
Anything.
Anything goes in Cobra Kai.
Okay, so the second one is a half a star.
Banjo's in Space said, great name.
Why did they choose the most boring typeface possible for the titles in the karate kid?
But more importantly, why isn't Karate Kid a werewolf movie?
In the scene where the Cobra Kai's are chasing Daniel from the school dance across a fog
shrouded field in their matching skeleton costumes, I felt there was no more perfect
moment for the hero to turn into a werewolf, which I don't remember saving this one, but
I do agree with it.
I also agree with it.
Yeah.
That would have been a better movie.
Why isn't this movie Teen Wolf?
Yes.
Yeah.
Exactly.
But with football instead.
And last one.
One and a half stars.
This is a longer one.
One and a half stars comes from Shannon.
Daniel dresses up as a shower for a Halloween party, which is just a really stupid costume,
especially since he's trying to be inconspicuous.
While this costume might seem effective in hiding one's identity at first, since he's
fully enclosed by the shower curtain and can therefore not be seen by anyone.
Once someone determines who's wearing the shower costume, it becomes incredibly easy
to find him at the party, not only is the costume large, making it easy to spot, but
absolutely no one else would be wearing a costume even remotely similar to the shower
costume, making it stick out even more.
The costume also draws attention to Daniel, which would make people curious to find out
who decided to dress up as a shower for Halloween, further negating the effectiveness of this
costume as a means to hide his identity.
Furthermore, the size of the costume makes it difficult to move around in, so when he
inevitably needs to run away, he has a very hard time getting through the crowded party
and away from the bullies.
He should have just worn a generic Halloween costume with a mask, which would have accomplished
the same goal of keeping his identity hidden without making it easy to find him or harder
to move.
That's what I meant to write.
That's so good.
Get them on the pod.
It just kept going.
Perfect.
You've always got a long one like that, and I love them.
I love a long one.
The ones who commit.
Well, thank you for those, Sam, as usual, they were splendid.
It's that time now, isn't it?
So Evan, you think that was good, do you?
I forgot that I picked this movie, even though I took the notes and I picked this movie,
so I didn't really think about whether or not I liked it.
I guess I did.
It's not the movie I remember, which seems to be more often the case than not for when
we watch these.
It's too long.
Definitely too long.
They could have cut out Ali completely, it would have been the same movie.
They could have cut out the merm, didn't need to see her.
I only needed the karate.
Her being a point of contention between Johnny and Daniel is not important.
That's what I was going to say.
It's a little important.
I mean, it'd be a bit weird if they were fighting over a radio on the beach.
But they don't need to fight over anything.
And then he goes to school and that same radio is there and then Johnny gets jealous.
It could have just been that Johnny is bullying him and that's all the contention I needed
for those two characters.
Just the boy needs to defend himself.
But instead, as always in these movies, I have to watch Kids Kiss and is that, I guess,
payoff for me.
She didn't have big badonkadonks though, so.
It's because she loves stirring that pot.
She wants all this to happen.
You need to go and sort this.
She loves being apologised too.
You should meet me at this party.
I'm going to mention Johnny, Johnny's going to be there and I'll be 20 minutes late.
So you'll come in.
I'll be incredibly late because I'll be dancing with him.
Well to summarise.
Yeah, I enjoy you.
Please keep Daniel's blood off my dress, Johnny.
But it's not as good a movie as I remember.
But I do want to watch Koba Riki again now, so I will do that.
What about you, Sam?
When I was watching it, at least, I mean, we've, as usual, torn into pedantic things
here.
But when I was watching it, I took most of it at kind of face value, which is why I didn't
get many notes down.
I just enjoyed it.
I just thought, taken for what it is, it was way better than I expected.
I should mention, I'd never seen this before.
This is my first time watching.
I did not know that.
I didn't know that.
Yeah.
So I don't know, maybe my expectations were lower, or yeah, I just didn't have the preconceptions
that to be disappointed or anything, but yeah, first time watching and now I just really
enjoyed it.
It's probably one of the best films that we've covered in my opinion.
Oh yeah, well that's a low bar, friend.
It is a low bar.
It's going to stay low based on next week.
Ooh, what a setup.
Cole, you get yours in first though.
As you know, I hate the poor.
I love sucker punching.
I think I've seen this movie one too many times by this point, that there was some element
of this feeling like a chore, having to watch it again, and that did detract from my experience
a little bit.
I mean, it's feel good, isn't it?
Guy gets bullied, guy beats up bully, the end.
And yeah, I'm going to, I'm still going to say good movie, even though it did feel like
effort to watch.
I did not remember it being two hours long.
And although I did interrupt you during your bit to say that you're wrong about cutting
Ali out.
Probably could cut Ali out.
Yeah.
But you know, then you won't be able to cut out the bit where you talk about her tits.
Well there we go.
That's that, isn't it?
That is that.
Thank you all so much for listening.
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